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interview: Madame So

by Tim Forster
Madame So by Crawford Blair
How long have you been making music? When did you ‘become’ Madame So? 
Well, I used to write for various magazines, reviewing gigs and interviewing musicians…I thought that was the closest outlet there was for me to get exposed to as much music as possible. During that time, I got to hang out with some buzzing bands on the London scene at the time and I kind of developed an itch for performing my own stuff. I played my first ever gig circa 2011 and have played ever since. I recorded my first demos in the summer of 2012, then they developed into ‘The Sell-by Date EP’ which I put out in 2013 under the stage name of Madame So, even though, this is not so much a stage name as such as my parents have called me that since I was about three years old.Who would you list as musical influences?  
Foundations in my musical make-up include Bob Dylan, Nina Simone, Garland Jeffreys, Patti Smith, Billie Holliday, Fats Domino and all that cool indie stuff like The Replacements, Liz Phair, The Lemonheads, L7 and Hole, as well as some French music (Serge Gainsbourg, Renaud, Christophe Miossec).

Did you have a fairly clear idea of the sound you were aiming for from the start or has it evolved? 
Not really. When I was performing the acoustic circuit in London, my stuff was already branded “punk” by promoters and other bands who associate acoustic guitar solely with the likes of Bob Dylan, Neil Young and Nick Drake… While when writing a song I never had “punk” in mind: for me it was just me writing a song on the guitar. I like guitars. I did not have any particular sound in mind, I just wanted to flesh my songs out into a full-band performance, and I got to work with musicians (of the band Paintings of Ships)  who got my vibe and with whom I recorded ‘The Sell-by Date’ EP. On ‘It’s Not Even A Colour’, my  second EP, I had the likes of Gang of Four and Lush in mind.

What sort of subject matter do you explore in your music?  
The narrative of my songs tend to revolve around the themes of alienation, addiction and the war on conformity.

What inspires and influences your lyric writing? Books, films, your own experiences?
A mixture of these three. I’m a big daydreamer with a keen interest in words and poetry, so lyrics are something I give high importance to in a song. I like to dig out the poetry in/from the grit, and a genius at that was my favourite-ever author, Charles Bukowski. I have just finished his book of poetry, ‘On Love’: it’s brilliant.

Your song ‘Black is Beautiful’ seems to explore the pressures to conform with expected cultural norms – is that what it’s about?
Yes, that’s one way of seeing it. Ultimately, it’s a big shout out about the fact that being black doesn’t have to be one-dimensional. Not every black person is brought into this world as an all Beyonce/Rihanna/Tyler Perry’s films loving package just because they are born black. And that it’s OK to be black and choose guitars over beats and spits. I could have (like I have been suggested to by black and white friends and acquaintances alike) gone the easy, predictable and expected R’n’B/Hip Hop route. But I am a musician, not a poseur, so best make music I can genuinely express myself through instead of being a fraud to my own self.

  • “The only pressure, if we want to call it that, is being faced with people’s narrow-mindedness and simplism.”

Earlier this year you released a very interesting rearrangement of Bowie’s ‘Let’s Dance’. How did you decide on that reinterpretation? Was your decision to release it as a single a kind of homage? 
I was playing a couple of shows in Paris in 2015, and wanted to stretch my set a little. I’ve always loved this song ever since I was little, and for me the best covers are the ones that go in opposite directions from the originals (a band like Nouvelle Vague is a master at that so much so they based their entire career on making covers). For me, it would have been way too predictable to have recreated the saxophones and kept the song “danceable”. I just wanted to focus on the brilliance and purity of Bowie’s songwriting less the flashy production however great it is. When I recorded this cover in Spring 2015, I had no idea what he was going through but my own mother was undergoing chemotherapy…  She passed four months before him. So it’s an homage to both of them, really.

What are your plans for 2017?
I’ll keep on performing live, currently with my drummer, Giova, and then we’ll expand the line-up into a four-piece for bigger gigs, hopefully festivals, and aim to have recorded that long-overdue debut album by the end of the year.

Big thanks to Solange. To hear more go to and 


Madame So by Lore Sabau

interview: Desperate Journalist

by Eloise Bulmer

Jo Bevan of Desperate Journalist – photo by The Chaos Engineers

How are you feeling about releasing your album ‘Grow Up’? 
We are all so excited and impatient about it – we have all put so much work and love into this record and we can’t wait for people to hear it.

What your personal favourite track off of ‘Grow Up’ and why? 
If I have to choose it’s probably ‘Lacking In Your Love’, because it feels so big and anthemic and has only got one chorus. It’s my favourite to play live as well.

What’s your writing process like, is it more solo or collaborative? 
Rob will write bits and pieces or even whole song structures, and we all work on fleshing the ideas out into fully formed song structures. Then I write the melodies to what we have, and work out how to fit lyrics I’ve already got to the music.

What’s the concept behind your recent video for ‘Resolution’? 
The song was written after a New Year’s Eve party where I was feeling totally out of step with everyone and the social whirl of it all and the video is basically a literal interpretation of that.

You’re about to embark on a UK and German tour, are you looking forward to playing new songs live? 
Hugely. Playing live is my favourite part of being in a band, and we all love doing new stuff because it’s always much more exciting. We are already playing a number of songs off the new album live and they’ve been going down really well which is great.

Are there any places you would like to play in the future? 
I really want to do the whole breaking America thing, but it’s just way too expensive at the moment unfortunately. I’d also like to play my childhood hometown of High Wycombe, out of spite.

Finally, what date of tour are you most looking forward to playing? 
The Scala, which will be the biggest gig we have ever played. I’m terrified/super excited.

Check out Desperate Journalist’s releases on Bandcamp and keep up with their tour plans on Facebook 


interview: The Baby Seals

by Richard Archer, exclusively for LOUD WOMEN

The Baby Seals: Amy Devine, Kerry Devine & Jasmine Robinson

It’s my first interview assignment ever and I’m both excited and scared to be chatting shop with Jasmine Robinson and Amy Devine (bass thumper and traps basher respectively) of excellent Cambridge-based punx The Baby Seals.  They’ve spent the day filming a video for a track from their forthcoming EP, ‘Lips Are Sealed’, and have very kindly agreed to meet me down the boozer afterwards – a few classy Guinness and Malibus later, my nerves are alleviated and it’s straight to business.

Give our readers a potted history of the band…
Amy: Kerry (Devine, guitars and vocals) is my sister and Jasmine has been a really good friend of ours for ages and this band started as an idea in the pub when Kerry had this song called ‘Period Drama’. The band got its name from when I worked as a support worker. I asked my manager where she was going for New Years Eve and she said “I’m off to see the baby seals in Hunstanton” and I thought she meant a band. She didn’t, she literally meant the animals!

Yours and Jasmine’s last band (The Centimes) was alternative rock and the ‘Seals are punkier. Was it a conscious decision to go harder edged? 
Amy: I guess we have turned punky but it wasn’t a conscious thing – Kerry writes the songs, they just turned out that way.
Jasmine: But they’re poppy too. Kerry has a good ear for a hook. It just started as banter, with us just riffin’ off each other really.

Kerry’s solo material is very folky, in the run up to the band was she wanting to get into something heavier?
Jasmine: Not really, we wanted  to do something different after the Centimes, and Kerry wanted to as well because doing things solo is a very different experience. This is us just hanging out together. It’s a big kickabout really, but with instruments. We’re like a band of sisters!

Amy, what’s it like being in a band with your sister? I imagined you’ve played music together before right?
Amy:  We used to perform on holidays! And my dad had a band when we were little and they used to let us get up on stage and play stuff as well. It’s lovely being in a band with Kerry. She gets quite self-conscious sometimes because she’s very focused and driven and thinks it may come across as bossy. But we tell her she’s not, she’s got a good vision for the band.

Nothing wrong with being a perfectionist. Do you chip in with lyrics? 
Amy: Not yet, but we want to.
Jasmine: The lyrics tend to come out of conversations we have. Brutally honest female conversation! Especially since we’re all quite close, what with Kerry and Amy being sisters, they tend to be issues we’ve talked about and Kerry will come back a few weeks later having written a song about it.

Do the songs take shape in the practice room or does Kerry turn up with the finished article?
Jasmine: She’ll come in and say “this is the riff and what not”, and me and Amy will fill in the spaces, see what sounds good.

So what song were you making a video for today then?
Amy: ‘Girl’. We’ve been covert filming in a major high street chain of toy shops!
Jasmine: The songs lyrics are aghast at the gendered toys that there are in the shops. One thing we saw in there today was a Disney serving trolley – what does that teach your daughter?? To be subservient??
Amy: Predominantly pink coloured princess toys. We saw a lot of that.

Do you have a favourite song from your band?
Amy: I love ‘Nipple Hair’, it’s quite a dynamic song. It start with a Southern-California punk/beach-y kind of vibe and then it slows down in the middle with a three-part harmony. The lyrics make it quite funny as well.
Jasmine: I really like the lyric:

  • “Some ariola’s are big and vainy / Some look like puppy dogs noses / Some look like they’ve been dipped in gravy!”

It’s so true!

Is that your favourite too then?
Jasmine:  Yeah, I think it is. I enjoy playing that one, it sums us up quite nicely.
Amy: It quite a positive song, its not having a pop at anyone or excluding anyone.

What about Kerry?
Amy: She really gets into ‘It’s Not About The Money Honey’. I don’t know if that’s her favourite but I’ve noticed she really goes for it on that one.
Jasmine: She goes Kate Bush-esque and wild on that one!

With regards to your instruments of choice, are there any particular performers that inspired you to pick them up?
Amy: A few. I really liked Caroline Corr – there’s loads of female drummers but a lot of them are session players. There’s not many that are visible, in commercial music, it’s male-dominated. So I first saw her when I was something like twelve years old and I thought she was really cool. And I really loved Thin Lizzy, so Brian Downey was a big influence. My uncle Mitch was a big influence, he used to let me play his drums. It’s always been there in the family. And as I’ve gotten older, I listen to a lot of funky soul and Motown-style drumming.
Jasmine: Flea from the Red Hot Chili Peppers, which shows how young I was when I first picked up a bass! I liked the poppin’ slap bass, even though I play nothing like that. I remember listening to ‘Aeroplane’ and I really liked that song, his bassline was slamming and I liked that his daughter was in the video too. I liked Incubus too – I don’t play funky bass but I’ve got an appreciation for it.

What is your favourite gig you have played so far?
Amy: This is hard! I liked the one we did in Brighton at Sticky Mike’s Frog Bar. The woman doing the sound was amazing, good stage, great monitoring too.
Jasmine: That was my favourite too. And there was a great audience there, really getting into it. Crowd-surfing at points! We got some really good feedback afterwards, people seemed thrilled that we sing about things that they talk with their girlfriends about. We don’t beat around the bush!

I’m resorting to job interview-styled questions now. If I was to interview your peers, how would they describe you?
Jasmine: Cheeky.
Amy: Laid back.
Jasmine: I’m gonna compare us to the Spice Girls! Everyone liked them because they were just normal lasses, and there’s a class thing going on there as well. We’re working class girls.
Amy: The feedback we’ve had has been positive.
Jasmine: I was really frightened for a bit before we started gigging these songs, I didn’t know how people would take it – if they would be offended. But they’ve been really on board with it. All our songs are meant with good intention, there’s no malice.

Final question – where do you see yourselves in five years time?
Jasmine: Conquering the world.

 ‘Lips Are Sealed’ is available to pre-order now, ahead of release on 7 April from 


interview: The Potentials

by Beth White of Who Run the World

The Potentials: Shanaz, Holly and Zak

Can you describe your music in a few short words? 

Holly: Buffy the Vampire Slayer themed queer diy pop
Shahnaz: chaotic, catchy funtimes for all
Zak: It’s queer, feminist pop punk. It’s all based in the Buffyverse but as with the show, everything is just an analogy for everything we experience in our daily life. Except maybe ‘Moloch’, that ones kinda specific to the show/90’s TV in general. (sorry that’s not a few or short words).

How did you all meet & decide to form The Potentials?
We met at a support group for people that can’t get over the 90s and decided we’d enable our Buffy obsession in a healthy way.
Shahnaz: It all began as an attempt to play the Buffy RPG, it turned out that was really hard because you’ve got to have a good DM and follow rules and stuff, so we instead we decided to channel our love of Buffy into some songs, and became the very band you see before you.
Zak: We all knew each other and ended up talking about Buffy awkwardly at parties, and then, as Shahnaz said, the RPG was too hard so we decided to try being a band! Worked out alright didn’t it!

Who are your influences?
 Bruce SpringsteenTeam DreschMy Chemical Romance on repeat forever and ever.
Shahnaz: Az from ice shack in Manchester, and some bands.

  • “Fags and dykes and queers and grrrls and wimmin and punx and all the weirdos.”

Keep being weird. (And The Spice Girls).

What exciting things did you get up to in the last year?
 We recorded a new EP, made a pop video, went on tour, had a birthday party, had a spring fling, had our second annual Slayerfest, made a charity single, and rewatched all of Angel. It was bananas!
Zak: As above, so below PLUS we are an inordinate amount of hash browns.

What have we got to look forward to from The Potentials this year?
 More songs, more tours, more hash browns for breakfast.
Shahnaz: A really good t-shirt with a cute animal on it!
Zak: PARAHOY (please Hayley?) plus loads of shows and feelings and new music!

(Assuming you are!) Why are you particularly looking forward to playing the Who Run the World/LOUD WOMEN show on 8th March for International Women’s Day? 
Holly: One word: Charmpit.
Zak: All of it. Plus more Charmpit with everything please. LOUD WOMEN and Who Run The World have both been so supportive of us and so many good bands, so honestly, it’s gonna be the party to end all parties.

What is your take on the state of women’s representation in music right now?
Shahnaz: In the DIY scene women are properly doing it for themselves, I see oodles and caboodles of female bands making a start and making good. Unfortunately that doesn’t crossover into mainstream music, the handful of bands I see getting signed and getting representation still maintain the status quo in that they are mainly all male, and usually all white.
Zak: As a cis-but-sissy gay guy I won’t take up much space here except to say that all the women in the scene at the moment are REALLY FUCKING NAILING IT!!! Lots of pricks to continue to fight but you babes have been absolutely slaying (bad pun intended)

Where can people listen to your music & buy merch?


Beth White’s interview was originally published on the Who Run the World tumblr here

interview: Dream Wife

by Kate Crudgington, originally published on GigSlutz and reproduced with kind permission (thank you!)

As I made my way to The Old Blue Last on Tuesday night, I felt what can only be described as an overwhelming level of fan girl excitement (probably not the most professional statement to make at the start of an interview, but stick with me). I’ve somehow managed to miss all of Dream Wife‘s gigs in the last 6 months, and I’ve been told they’re a band that can only be fully appreciated when seen live; so I’m excited to see them and speak to them for the first time.

I’ve got my list of questions ready, and I’m praying my face doesn’t go embarrassingly red when I eventually meet Alice, Bella & Rakel, who have been touring their ‘poolside pop with a bite’ across the country for the last year. I’m taken up (several) flights of stairs to the back room where I’m introduced to lead singer Rakel, who is replying to messages from friends on her phone. She explains that if her friends don’t arrive before 7:30, they probably won’t make it in to the venue – it’s a free gig but it’s ‘sold out’ on DICE almost twice over. 

We’re quickly joined by Guitarist Alice and Bassist Bella who share Rakel’s concerns about not being able to get their friends in to the gig. We sit down to chat, and I immediately relax because they’re charismatic, calm and really funny. They’re the kind of girls you’d want to meet in a bar or a mosh pit on a night out, and immediately inhale more alcohol and live music with.

Even with their intense pre-show schedule, they’re gracious with their time and more than happy to discuss their excitement and anticipations for the show, the projects they worked on last year, and that incredible new video for ‘FUU’…


Hello Dream Wife! You’re about to play to a sold out crowd as part of DIY’s ‘Hello 2017’ tour at The Old Blue Last. How are you feeling about tonight’s gig?

Rakel: We’re really excited to play and it’s a beautiful venue, but size-wise it’s a bit stressful. We’re going to be playing to such a cramped crowd, we’re a little concerned about where to go if we need to get on and off stage.

Bella: Yeah, I’m excited to play and I know it’s going to be great, but that’s the one thing that’s stressing us out really.

Rakel: I’m excited to see a band called Venture Lows though. They’re supporting us and our friend’s son is in the band. All of the band’s playing tonight are great actually, so I think that stage will already be sweated out by the time we get there.

Bella: We’re excited to go on the DIY tour as well. We’ve been mostly recording and then, oh wait, we had Christmas off…

Rakel: I think Christmas was the first break we’ve actually had since…last Christmas? (laughs)

Bella: Everyone was like “awh, it must be so nice to have this time where you can just relax?” and we were like “yeah, this is my only time to relax until next Christmas…” (laughs)

Rakel: It’s a really beautiful thing though! It just feels like you’re living your life the way that you really want to live it, as hippy as that sounds. I haven’t been doing stuff professionally that I’ve not enjoyed.

Alice: Yeah, everything’s just really exciting right now, so ‘being busy’ doesn’t really feel like ‘being busy’ really.

We’re briefly and accidentally interrupted by Dama Scout who are supporting the band, asking if the room’s only for Dream Wife’s equipment/stuff, to which the girls laugh and kindly inform them the space is for all the bands performing tonight.

R: Let’s never be that kind of band that are like “errr no this room’s only for us. You can only have one water and don’t touch anything…” (laughs)

B: (to me) I’ve just realised that you could totally quote that out of context and make us sound awful.


I won’t, I swear! You filmed a music video for your track ‘FUU’ at The Moth Club last year which features your fans going mad to the song. What inspired the track, and what’s it like watching your fans when you’re on stage playing it?

A: Oh God, there was that one middle-aged guy who was just stood directly below Rakel once, staring at her, miming all the words to the song…

B: He just took the song completely out of context.

A: But normally people freak out and it’s super fun and that’s what the song’s for.

R: Originally the song started out as our take on the theme tune from The Fresh Prince of Bel Air. That was the starting point. It all started with Will Smith.

All good things do…

R: The song is actually about cutting your hair, and nobody really knows that. Everyone thinks its a really grotesque song but it’s actually about haircuts. When someone has the power to fuck up your look, it’s a very scary thought (laughs). Now we have a drummer, the crowds go more even more crazy when they hear it.

A: Yeah, it’s like a stadium beat and everyone just goes mad. It’s really cool.

I’m looking forward to hearing it tonight. You’re going to be supporting Sleigh Bells on their UK tour and The Kills on their 15th anniversary tour this year. What are you looking forward to most about these shows?

A: Both of those bands are our genuinely some of our favourites. We’re so excited to play with these legends.

B: So it’s kind of ridiculous that we get to go on tour with them.

R: We weren’t really sure if we’d get the Sleigh Bells gigs because when Alice met the lead singer…

A: I bit Alexis on the cheek! (laughs)

R: We’re with the same label (Lucky Number) so Alice was lucky enough to meet them and she bit Alexis’ cheek really hard, and left a mark apparently, so we weren’t really sure if we’d get to tour with them.

A: I think she was okay with it, she commented on the picture saying I could bite her cheek any time (laughs).

You certainly know how to leave a mark!

Rakel – Before the end of 2016 you performed at the Bands4Refugees charity gig at Kamio with Wolf Alice, Slaves, Swim Deep, Bloody Knees, and Ollie from Years & Years. You covered Dolly Parton’s ‘Jolene’. Why did you choose to cover this song?

Rakel: I love Dolly Parton. She is my favourite lyricist. I really like her way with words.

That was a fun night. I was such a newbie, it was so fun playing the show because it was interesting being with a bunch of bands who had toured before already and being like – “Hi! I’m the new kid!” – but they were all so lovely and kind.

Everyone worked really hard on their songs too. We had so many practices and everyone took it very seriously. It was a really sweet end to the year. And I loved Ollie. He was just the best. It was my dream to sing the Dolly song as well, and I didn’t fuck it up (laughs).

You all modelled for Vivienne Westwood’s unisex fashion project that celebrates the androgynous toga. What was it like collaborating with Vivienne and other creatives on this project? 

R: It was freezing. We went on to Black Heath and became blue…

A: We were surrounded by crows and we didn’t realise that the bodies of people who had died in the plague had been buried on Black Heath, so the crows were like “death is here” and we were standing there in these unisex togas just like (starts laughing) it felt like a dream…

R: They’re really wonderful, the Vivienne Westwood crowd. It was really great collaborating with them.

A: They wanted us to play around and add our own style too, so in that sense we were able to wear the togas as we wanted and there were so many different ways to do that. It was such a surreal experience.

R: They’ve been very kind to us. We went to London Fashion Week and we went to some parties and it was like a scene out of Zoolander. It was great, and it was good to kind of realise that it’s all a show, it’s like being in a circus. It was cool.


You all studied fine art & visual art at University, and Dream Wife was initially an art project that blossomed in to a band. Aside from the Westwood project and your music, do you still find time to create other forms of art?

A: We collaborate with a lot of other creatives in London and elsewhere, so with Dream Wife it’s not just about the recordings or an album, it’s bigger than that. We’re thinking about the artwork, what the videos will look like, and what the vision is aesthetically.

For the show we filmed at Halloween at the Moth Club, Bella built the whole set in her bedroom out of cardboard. We are still really hands on in other ways, but the music has taken up more of our time.We just wanted to put on a show where you feel like you’re immersed in a world, and people can feel like a part of that.  

Finally, any bands/albums you can recommend listening to?

B: The Garden Centre

A: Definitely Nova Twins.

R: I love Solange’s new album. That changed my life. She has a way of speaking to people that I’ve not heard before.

A: There’s so much new music it’s hard to choose.

R: There are a lot of good bands in London. I mean, we’re based in Brighton, but we were never really part of a band scene, we were just studying Art at Uni and had friends there. It’s fun to come to London and not realise you’re part of a scene. It’s nice going to a bar and realising most people in there are musicians.

A: Yeah, we were kind of in the art bubble a bit. Even when we’re back in Brighton it’s cool to realise who else is making music and that this scene does exist and you are part of it.

Dream Wife are most certainly ‘part of it’ after their sweaty show at Old Blue Last. Huge thanks to Alice, Bella & Rakel for answering my questions. Follow Dream Wife on Facebook for more updates.

Photo Credit: Francesca Allen

Kate Crudgington

interview: Kill Bitches To Dress Foxes

14601074_10210756715864858_4183864826566243374_nTim Forster interviewed Ale by email
Could you give us an overview of KBTDF? How did you meet? When did you start? Had any of you been in bands before?
I (Ale, bass) met Itxi Eskorputa (drums) 6 years ago when I came to London. We always talked about doing an all girl band but we didn’t know how to play music at all! Three years ago I started to learn bass and tried to push Itxi and some other friends to do this but it wasn’t happening ‘cause we couldn’t find a guitar player until a year ago Itxi met with Turko Vein (guitar) in a gig and she said she’d love to join us. A week after we had our first practice and it was the best time in a very long time for the three of us. Turko Vein plays in two other  bands: Meinhof and Erege. Itxi used to sing years ago in a band from the Basque Country called Y tu que coño miras! and for me this is my first time!


Why did you start? Was it all about making music or did you feel you had things to say?
We started this as a therapy, just to let out all the anger, frustration and disappointment in our lives. As Itxi always says “I need to express myself through punk!”. We also wanted to see each other more often and to do something different rather than get wasted, so now we still get wasted but we also make music in the meantime, or at least we try!


What sources do you draw on in lyric writing?
Mostly own experiences, from our point of view on things in general (politics, sex…) to funny stories that happen to us partying or going to work. There has been a few times that on a break at the practice I would tell them something that happened on a night out and Turko V made a lyric out of it straight away! Obviously those songs won’t make any sense for anybody else but us but who cares!! At the beginning it was mainly Turko V doing music and lyrics, now Itxi and myself are writing stuff as well


Who inspires you?
Emma Goldman, Kathleen Hanna, Wendy O. Williams (Plasmatics)


What bands have you been enjoying lately?
Municipal Waste, Cancer Bats, Sleep, High on Fire, Accused
What are your plans for 2017?
First we are going to learn to play better and then we’ll see!


KBTDF’s  Facebook page is  

video: Graceland

Graceland, Debut London gig, The Old Blue Last, 11 Novgraceland
Much excitement led up to the London debut of this all woman four piece. Fans of popular shouty trio Fever Fever were keen to see what Rosie and Ellie did next.
Well, they joined forces with twins Maxie(drums) and Stevie (bass), Gedge who some may recognise for the band The Brownies and formed Graceland – (apparently named after the Paul Simon album as opposed to the Elvisresidence). Graceland are focussed, pounding joyously dark, hook laden indie pop somewhere with a whiff of Warpaint, at points chucking in a bit of a light surf rock vibe that wouldn’t go amiss in a Go Go’s song. Although completely ‘of the now’, there is a nod to the 80s in their sound and the band would not sound out of place playing in the nightclub at the beginning of San Junipero (Black Mirror).

Charley Stone and I caught up with Ellie and Rosie from the band after the gig: